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amazingcherry
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 04:08 am |
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I am not against to those Filipinas who works in Japan as an entertainer because they're doing it for the sake of their family.
The sad thing is lots of people esp fellow Filipinos are degrading/discriminating them.
Let us hear what you guys think about this.
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CrewSafe
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 07:23 am |
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If you get up on stage & shake your ass while completely naked, then go out at night for sex with various customers, then I would say that you are not in a very respectable business.
For the sake of their family..."how low can you go?" Where is "Mom & Dad" out there raising "Royal Hell" that there daughter is working in Japan or Okinawa as a prostitute? That seems to be the problem here...it does not matter what their daughter does, just as long as she sends money home to support all of the "Standbys" who are so damn lazy that they would rather see a relative sell their ass, than get off of their's & find a job.
Then again...what can you expect, when many of these Filipinas are raped by realitives?
Last edited on Sat Feb 10th, 2007 07:29 am by CrewSafe
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 09:37 am |
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Hhmm, for those who don´t know....CrewSafe´s post might seem a bit harsh....sorry to say, it´s NOT. U pointed out very valid issues CrewSafe!  .
Most of these girls are often enough very well aware BEFORE they go to Japan what the job is all about (no...singing is not the only thing they´ll be doing). They know the reality by in many cases talking to other Pinay´s that have been over there working AND they in many cases sign up for another/extended contract when they´ve been home for a while & the money is gone, often by pressure from parents or other relatives (yes, the family knows very well what kind of work she´s doing even if they pretend not to....as long as the money comes to that local western union office....all is well).
The sad thing is that this goes for not only "Bargirls" working abroad but any Philippine OFW´s. What i´m saying is that when money is beeing sent on a regular/monthly basis..... in some cases it results in the family ending up on their asses doing nothing!?!? While the Pinay OFW is "wasting" the better years of her life working away from her country, family & friends......all in vain. It´s not like the money is used to improve the house, buy a trike (that can generate money), buy land..... but no, it´s all to often used by certain family members so that they don´t have to work....
In those cases where the whole OFW thing works, it´s more then commendable from both the one beeing offshore as well as the husband/wife staying back home.
This odd "family" behavior that CrewSafe posted is of course related to when a Pinay marries a foreigner (not saying it´s wrong to send money to the family...it´s up to every couple to decide). Many (not all) "Kanos" will go along with sending money back to the Phils every month as it´s VERY MUCH EXPECTED..... many Pinays (not all) married to foreigners will feel a VERY strong pressure from back home to keep that moneyflow coming......
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Carabao Kevin
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 04:06 pm |
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Well, I have heard of Japayuki....but wasn't sure what they did, I assumed it was a bit neg. But that all depends on ones view of neg. I didn't know if they were more like strippers....or it went much further. Is it correct to say they ALL are prostitutes?
Here is what I think about it, if it be my daughter, mother, sister or wife....."I would be choking the life out of someone"   ....not literally, but that type of thing just doesn't fly with me. I do believe to each his own, do what you want as long as the family approves of the low down stuff.....but to me, it's just plain wrong. I have NEVER been to a "strip bar", never plan to go, so anything more than that is too far out there for my approval.
I understand what CREWSAFE is saying, but not EVERY family will sit back and do nothing while 1 person sends money home. I hear it happens a lot, but I don't know how true it really is. Now when you say "Then again...what can you expect, when many of these Filipinas are raped by relatives?" Again, I assume, that you are talking about prostitutes are being raped by relatives. Another thing, here in the States, it is well thought that Strippers are also Hookers, and some may be, but that is NOT 100% solid, for sure thing. Just assumptions by the public as a whole.
I remember hearing something on TV about in Korea (korea-that's almost always bad news) that some Filipinas were FORCED into prostitution, thinking they were going to be doing other work.
So to end this....if we are talking about:
"I am not against to those Filipinas who works in Japan as an entertainer because they're doing it for the sake of their family."
Thats their choice, but I'm not supporting the idea.
But if we are talking about:
"If you get up on stage & shake your ass while completely naked, then go out at night for sex with various customers, then I would say that you are not in a very respectable business."
Than I say.... HECK NO WAY!, I agree with Crewsafe.
Nice post AmazingCherry, very controversial, but a good post. 
My question to AmazingCherry is: Which viewpoint/job are YOU referring to, The plain "Dancers/Entertainers" or the Prostitutes, or both and every job between them?
Thanks for the post! 
-Mabuhay-
-Kevin
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amazingcherry
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 08:22 pm |
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My question to AmazingCherry is: Which viewpoint/job are YOU referring to, The plain "Dancers/Entertainers" or the Prostitutes, or both and every job between them?
Kevin, I am referring to Dancers/Entertainers.... I've known some Filipinas who used to worked in Japan as an entertainers/dancers HOWEVER when they say you are from JAPAN as an ENTERTAINER/DANCERS , they thought you're a PROSTITUTES as a whole... Isn't it sad?
To Patric, I strongly AGREE with your reply, VERY WELL SAID
TO Crewsafe, it does not matter what their daughter does, just as long as she sends money home to support all of the "Standbys"
Not all parents are aware of what their daughters would be doing in Japan. As far as they know, their daughter will be trained as singers and dancers while they're in agencies in Manila or wheresoever. They (soon to be entertainers in Japan) will be having a tests to be pass to get a license thingy that they got a talent to be called as an entertainer..... Sad but true, there are some parents are pushing their daughters to go to Japan as an entertainers.
Thanks and Have a beautiful day!
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 09:49 pm |
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the parents live in a state of denial thinking that their daughters are going to japan just to dance and sing. of course at the back of their minds they know that their daughter will be exposed to the dangers of being harrassed and being the object of indecent proposals. however, the economic side of this "venture" far outweighs the dangers.
the daughter finally goes as an entertainer and while she is there, mama back home fervently prays that little "inday" is spared from tragedy. it is like hoping against hope. like sending out a lamb among a pack of wolves as japan's sex industry may even be as big as the entire economy of a thrid world nation.
amidst these eminent dangers, all of them (inday, the parents, the lazy siblings) are hoping that while "inday" is out there, a white night in the form of a rich golf loving japanese businessman will fancy the daughter's beauty and take her out of her current employment at the club to be a housewife. oh inday knows what to expect. she knows that the white knight may not necessarily be handsome. good looks will only be a bonus. she knows that her japanese hero may most likely have stinking tobacco breath and crooked teeth.
every night as "inday" dons her makeup in preparation for her nightly performance, this is her heart's cry. that the man of her dreams would be out there in the audience. it reverberates with mama's prayer back home in the philippines.
with this mindset, a great number are disappointed as they end the night finding only to be ravaged by a sexual predator with nary a hint of love. the man she spent the night with was obviously not the white knight she was hoping to meet.
then again, tonight is another night. perhaps it could be this night "inday" tells herself.
for everyone, it is a gamble.
unfortunately, no one never realizes, the odds are always in the favor of the house.
so inday trudges along.
let's be real guys. even if some pinays go to japan STRICTLY as entertainers/singers, how many of them can actually decline an indecent proposal? 50%? 20%?
given this and taking this back to amazingcherry's first post, who do we really blame if the Filipinas working in Japan feel degraded or discriminated? i feel for them. but if they really wanted to cease the degradation or discrimination, they might as well quit gambling and just come home.
Last edited on Sat Feb 10th, 2007 09:53 pm by maven
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Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2007 01:21 am |
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If you get up on stage & shake your ass while completely naked, then go out at night for sex with various customers, then I would say that you are not in a very respectable business.
For the sake of their family..."how low can you go?" Where is "Mom & Dad" out there raising "Royal Hell" that there daughter is working in Japan or Okinawa as a prostitute? That seems to be the problem here...it does not matter what their daughter does, just as long as she sends money home to support all of the "Standbys" who are so damn lazy that they would rather see a relative sell their ass, than get off of their's & find a job.
Then again...what can you expect, when many of these Filipinas are raped by realitives?
I absolutely agree with you 100%.
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CrewSafe
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Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2007 02:10 am |
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amazingcherry wrote:
TO Crewsafe, it does not matter what their daughter does, just as long as she sends money home to support all of the "Standbys"
Not all parents are aware of what their daughters would be doing in Japan. As far as they know, their daughter will be trained as singers and dancers while they're in agencies in Manila or wheresoever. They (soon to be entertainers in Japan) will be having a tests to be pass to get a license thingy that they got a talent to be called as an entertainer..... Sad but true, there are some parents are pushing their daughters to go to Japan as an entertainers.
Thanks and Have a beautiful day!
amazingcherry: Do you really believe that for a minute? That parents are not aware of what their daughters are doing in Japan? If it was the 1970s, then yes, I might agree with you, but the "Japayuki" phenomenon has been going on for way too long for any Filipino parent to still play ignorant of what the job entails. More likely, as with many issues people wish not to confront here, the parents go into a state of denial, walking around the Barrio bragging to everyone what a good daughter they have & how she supports her family (have seen it with my own eyes & ears). Then the neighbors, in true Chasmosa (sp) (gossip/talking behind someone's back) fashion, will start telling each other what a thickface "so-and-so" has for acting like her daughter is not a hostess/prostitute. Maybe not every single girl who goes to Japan will wind up selling her ass...they are definitely in the minority. However, 100% of them WILL be up on the stage shaking that same ass...butt naked, every single night. I speak from having been stationed in Japan fo 11-years & visiting very many Japayuki bars.
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Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2007 02:56 am |
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They know, they just blind themselves because of poverty...the word japayuki is very known, and if i was a parent I would bother be curious about my daughter's nature of work.
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Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2007 05:19 pm |
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The parents and family are well aware of what these girls are doing, in and outside of the country. They just choose to not be reminded of it, thereby saving face.
Think about it. You have Filipina Miss A working in a bar, bringing home several 10's of thousands of piso each month, but she isn't working a day job at a bank or other institution. So, what is she doing, especially if she sleeps until 3pm?
I'm not judging anyone for doing it, because most already know my view on bargirls.
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amazingcherry
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Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2007 08:46 pm |
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Maybe not every single girl who goes to Japan will wind up selling her ass...they are definitely in the minority. However, 100% of them WILL be up on the stage shaking that same ass...butt naked, every single night. I speak from having been stationed in Japan fo 11-years & visiting very many Japayuki bars.
No wonder that's your point of view then since you've been stationed in Japan for 11 years. Never been to Japan anyway.
I will stick with my point of view, what I've known and what I feel.
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Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2007 09:09 pm |
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from the onset, the girls (and their parents) are fully aware of the repercussions coming from a negative reputation of females working in japan. so even if they are not sleeping around, they shouldn't blame anyone for being discriminated/degraded. they got into that profession (or the neighborhood of that profession) at a time when the general perception of the job was already ill.
if they can't stand the discrimination/degradation, they should just leave the profession. that's telling it straight as it should be.
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Posted: Wed Feb 21st, 2007 06:22 pm |
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I met my wife in Okinawa, so she classifies as a Japayuki. I urge people to follow the advice of the Bible (whether you are a Christian or not), and "Judge not lest ye be judged."
People make many choices in life out of necessity and/or desparation. This does not make them bad people.
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Sirena
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Posted: Sat Feb 24th, 2007 04:41 am |
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| I totally agree. I think the majority of young women who sign up for this kind of life are more or less aware of what they are letting themselves in for (though I have met one or two innocents who were really misled, and subsequently badly mistreated). The point is that most of them are doing this to break themselves and their families out of the cycle of poverty - sending money home to help educate younger siblings etc. Who are we to judge?
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