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Patric THEPHILS.COM
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Posted: Fri May 26th, 2006 07:14 pm |
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"Just before World War I, there were a number of terrorist attacks on the United States forces in the Philippines by Muslim extremists. So General Pershing captured 50 terrorists, and had them tied to posts for execution. He then had his men bring in two pigs and slaughter them in front of the, now horrified, terrorists.
Muslims detest pork, because they believe pigs are filthy animals. Some of them simply refuse to eat it, while others won't even touch pigs at all, nor any of their by-products. To them, eating or touching a pig, its meat, its blood, etc., is to be instantly barred from Paradise (and those virgins), and doomed to hell.
The soldiers then soaked their bullets in the pigs' blood, and proceeded to execute 49 of the terrorists by firing squad. The soldiers then dug a big hole, dumped in the terrorist's bodies, and covered them in pig blood, entrails, etc. They let the 50th man go.
And for the next 42 years, there was not a single Muslim extremist attack anywhere in the world. "
Some say this incident with General Pershing is a myth / never happened.....
Maybe it didnt, but how do u explain the 42 years of more or less no attacks ?
Would a stunt like this or something similar actually work today to prevent further attacks from extreme muslim groups ?
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Carabao Kevin
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Posted: Thu Aug 3rd, 2006 05:21 pm |
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Patric,
This is one I have discussed with other people, at work and I have read it on other boards.
First, In the Philippines, they considered them as Freedom Fighters, fighting for their homeland, against occupiers from the west. So the "Terrorist" idea depends on what side you are on.
It would never work today (in my opinion). here is the reason why I think that.
I remember watching CNN and they were showing "outraged Muslims", this was sometime right after the prison scandal. The "outraged Muslims" were holding the KORAN up towards Heaven and saying how all Americans must die..blah blah blah. The thing that I noticed was that among the many "Outraged Muslims" were holding the KORAN with the LEFT Hand & some were holding the Koran with the RIGHT hand reaching toward Heaven.
Now, to the average westerner, this is not noticeable, but I have a friend that is Muslim. ONE THING YOU SHOULD NOT DO IS HOLD THE KORAN WITH YOUR LEFT HAND. According to the people I know. The more conservative a Muslim is, the more strict they are. I can't judge those people, but they seem to just hate AMERICANS, their faith has nothing to do with it. If they are true conservative practicing Muslims.
Another thing, It would probably turn all Countries against us. the U.S. always tries to fight a "Politically correct" war, ever since WW2.
While in Iraq, the Terrorists were sawing off heads, a few Iraqi prisoners had their photos taken in the nude, some things were humiliating, but they still had their heads attached didn't they? And the BIG topic on CNN for a month?????? those poor guys had their photos taken in the nude.
For the record, I'm against the nude photos. but I'm more against the head sawing thing. Also, I'm not a real big fan of CNN.
What will cure this problem? Lets ask Israel.
-Mabuhay-
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at7000
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Posted: Tue Aug 15th, 2006 12:21 am |
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I'm not sure I have any answers on the best way to deal with muslim terrorism but one thing is for sure, what has been tried so far has not been effective.
Case in point, this recent Israel-Hizbollah thing. THe Israel Army took out Egypt, Syria, Jordan, etc, in the Six-day War. Yom Kippur war lasted like 3-4 days? and once again, Israel almost wiped them off the map.
So in the 3-4 weeks Israel has been fighting Hizbollah, what as it accomplished? Lots of dead civilians, relatively few dead Hizbollah, a country destroyed, and yet Hizbollah fights on and continues to rocket Israel. (Before the recent cease fire of course)
Just some food for thought. One thing I do know, is that fighting terrorists will take some serious "thinking outside of the box." We have the most powerful army in the world, and look how we are bogged down by a few thousand Iraqi insurgents. This Iraq war as lasted longer than america's involvement in WW2. Where is it heading? Civil war, looks like.
The other thing is that the 'fuel on the fire' in the mideast is this Palestinian thing. Again, a hard one to solve. I support the Israel fence idea. Problem is, some portions of it are being built on stolen land.
But one thing that has freaked me out lately, is the number of civilian casualties in this latest Israel thing. Of course they have a right to dfend themselve, and I applaud them evertime they kill some Arab terrorist, but come on, they are killing something like 10 plus civilians for every hit they get on a terrorist. This promotes new terrorists! Makes no sense.
Let's make an analogy- If some maniac wiped out my(or your) wife and kids and we caught up with them at crowded McDonalds, with a gun in hand, would feel comfortable shooting children and old ladies to "take out our man?" You know as well as I do, neither one of us would fire the shot until it was clear of civilians.
Police make this same decision everyday. They have a damned good track record of not wasting civilians in the pursuit of bad guys. If they don't have a clear shot, they don't fire. It is the only moral thing to do in that case, no mater how bad the 'bad guy' is. You simply don't waste civilian life taking him out. War is a little different, and civilians will always be killed, but everything must be done to minimize this.
Sorry for the rant guys, this whole middle-east thing just freaks my mind out.
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welshy
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Posted: Sat Nov 11th, 2006 09:16 pm |
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going back to the pigs blood thing. all muslim martyrs believe that to die in battle will result in being sent to paradise with seventy virgins awaiting them, so i reckon if the west was to explain that every muslim terrorist that was captured would be castrated and his severed tackle would be buried soaked in pigs blood they may think twice, coz if you think about it, who wants to spend eternity with 70 beautiful virgins in paradise when your cock and balls are in a ditch somewhere in iraq?
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Sirena
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Posted: Mon Nov 13th, 2006 09:22 am |
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Bwahahaha! good one! 
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Posted: Tue Nov 28th, 2006 08:33 pm |
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Hmmm. Well, I don't know if that is true or not, concerning Genera Pershing. For me though, I find it difficult to fight a politically correct war, when you are fighting an adversary who has intentions of dying for his cause anyway.
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welshy
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Posted: Sat Dec 9th, 2006 12:56 am |
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| which is why i say castrate the wankers and then see how they will enjoy their martyrdom!!!
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Posted: Mon Jan 15th, 2007 06:40 am |
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Yes, we are trying to fight a politically correct war & are not going about it very well.
How to win? You have to "Out-terrorist" the terrorist...plain & simple. 
As long as we continue to worry about the mythical "Geneva Convention" where we are the only idiots who abide by it, then we will continue to be hampered in the fight against radical Islam.
We have Syria on one side of Iraq & Iran on the other side as safe havens for Al Qaeda. Does this remind anyone of another conflict where we were hampered by politics in winning?
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Patric THEPHILS.COM
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Posted: Mon Jan 15th, 2007 06:25 pm |
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CrewSafe wrote: Yes, we are trying to fight a politically correct war & are not going about it very well.
How to win? You have to "Out-terrorist" the terrorist...plain & simple.
As long as we continue to worry about the mythical "Geneva Convention" where we are the only idiots who abide by it, then we will continue to be hampered in the fight against radical Islam.
We have Syria on one side of Iraq & Iran on the other side as safe havens for Al Qaeda. Does this remind anyone of another conflict where we were hampered by politics in winning?
If they don´t follow the "rules".....why should we?
Personally i believe that as long as the western world/countries follow these "peace love & understanding" rules....we´ll always lose.
As a matter of fact....today i talked to a young Iraqi guy who just came back from Iraq after beeing there visiting relatives. I asked him what his & the general crowd in Iraq thought about all of this (the war & the US beeing there). He was negative & said that:
"it was better when Saddam was in power ....Yes, he killed alot of people but atleast we had order....nobody dared to do the stuff they do know..people are stealing like crazy...driving around in stolen cars.... It was better with Saddam...even the Kurds are starting to feel the same towards the US. The Americans come in & interfere with our business & then they will leave...it´s all the Americans fault"
Howabout before Saddam? "Even better!"
I asked him if he thought that the Iraqis are ready for democracy; he looked at me and just shook his head.
An interesting thing he also told me;
"there is so much oil there...if we didnt have the oil we wouldnt have much of the problems we have now.... even when building a house u will have a great chance of striking oil (no joke)"
It breaks my heart to hear of all the American lives (soldiers) beeing lost & also those who return home injured for life.
Don´t get me wrong.... I´m not against the war /the US beeing there...But, when they (US politicians) decide to send troops to combat, the men & women of the armed forces should have EVERYTHING that they need to succeed in their mission & i mean EVERYTHING & ANYTHING !
I´d like to see every single US politician responsible for sending the troops, to be put in an unprotected hummer....driving back & forth through Bagdad...better yet, put their loved ones/family members in the hummers & see if they still are as inclined to send troops into combat without the right equipment.
What is wrong with the US airforce? As far as i know...Nothing! Then why not put it to use & send tactical nukes into Iran & make a statement...not only to show the Iranians but also the rest of the Arab nations what will happen if they don´t recognize who´s the Boss. If they dont listen after the first strikes...No problem, just continue till they fold.
Cheers!
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Posted: Tue Jan 16th, 2007 12:18 am |
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Excerpts from an on going debate in Australia. This is true and can be checked at http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted
radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty
to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister
John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would
face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to
Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the
country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state,
and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values,
if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then
Australia is not for you", he said on National Television.
"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another
Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law,
independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have
the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps,
then, that's a better option", Costello said.
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he
said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to
the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told
reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should
"clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and
who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well
then, they can basically clear off", he said.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by
saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.
Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Le ave It.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some
individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we
have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."
"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility
that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against
immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a
better life by coming to Australia ." "However, there are a few things
that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some
born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a
multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and
our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture,
our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." "This
culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and
victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"
"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to
become part of our society ... Learn the language!" "Most Australians
believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political
push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian
principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is
certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If
God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world
as your new home, because God is part of our culture." "We will
accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you
accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."
"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go",
then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this
planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change,
and we really don't care how you didthings where you came from. By all
means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others. "This is OUR
COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every
opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,
whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian
beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you tak e advantage of
one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come
here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."
Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will
find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths!
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Sirena
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Posted: Tue Jan 16th, 2007 11:46 am |
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It annoys me that Islamic leaders are not more vociferous about condemning those fanatics within their midst. I really don't think they do enough to weed out those people, or even to state publicly that they do not condone their actions.
And these leaders aren't trying hard enough to eradicate barbaric practices within some Muslim countries, such as stoning people to death, cutting off hands and the appalling treatment of women.
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